Splitting apart Edit

First off: INCREDIBLE work, RingoRoadagain and everyone else. I love how thorough you were and I think this page is more than long enough to start splitting it off into sub-articles. What I'm thinking is:

  • Days - pages for each day of the year; you could also list behind-the-scenes stuff and then link to it using Template:D. Example: August 6. So then if you did {{d|August|6|1990}} it would give you the real-world date August 6, 1990.
  • Years - pages for each year listing events, births, deaths. Example: 1956
  • Decades, centuries: Basically the same but for events that don't have a fixed date or year. Plus you could include the really major things that happened there in addition to on the actual dates. Basically the same as what they do for Harry Potter

Obviously a lot of stuff happened every single day of February-March 89 so maybe you could even justify dedicated articles for those - March 3, 1989 or something. I think this aspect of the wiki should be showcased more to show how big the world has gotten, you could even show the current day article on the home page like on the 24 wiki. Now it might need to be presented a little different since 24 has virtually no important calendar days in the story but it seems like a no-brainer with so much lore to draw on! --Pyramidhead (talk) 01:39, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, this page is RingoRoadagain's baby. I really like this idea and I think it would definitely be a benefit to the casual reader that just wants to dive into the timeline. Special Agent Dale Cooper (talk) 01:56, July 1, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I definitely think there is enough already to split it up. I didn't do it because I didn't know what could warrant a page of its own or not and found it easier to stay on the same page.
I know that if we put all the events seen on the TV series, the page would get at least 2 or 3 times as bigger (a timeline of this can be found online and I didn't have the courage to put back all that was listed). Plus, you can also see that I put nothing from the diary, MLMT or the pictures of TSHOTP (i did ctrl+F on my ebook to find the dates so those ones were most likely missed). So the page is still far from being complete (Maybe we could still keep it for a time along with the sub-articles to be sure that nothing was lost during the transition?)
I really like the idea of using the dates on the front page by the way. Alos, the Doctor Who wiki could be used as an example with all the dates on it.RingoRoadagain (talk) 11:23, July 1, 2017 (UTC)

Specific day templates Edit

Hey wanted to discuss this before continuing - I did split off certain days to be reusable (Template:February 16, 1989) but it was mostly so we don't have to worry about editing relevant pages 2 or 3x - 1989, February 16, etc. I don't think it's quite as necessary for things like Template:April 19, 1954; guess there's no reason not to but I don't know if any of those past entries would need to match across articles in the same way? --Pyramidhead (talk) 18:22, July 2, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, yeah, thanks for pointing that out, haha. Yeah, let's just keep the templates for the dates we're going to see more often. I'll get rid of those April 19 ones I just did. Thanks! Special Agent Dale Cooper (talk) 18:26, July 2, 2017 (UTC)
All good man, thanks for pitching in! Think this is gonna be really awesome when it's done --Pyramidhead (talk) 18:30, July 2, 2017 (UTC)
Maybe we should create 2 different categories, one for day in the narrative and another one for the production?RingoRoadagain (talk) 16:02, July 4, 2017 (UTC)
Don't think it's necessary - not enough happens on any one day to justify it in my opinion. Hey Cooper, I sort of changed my mind about applying the templates to every date not just those in the show - it seems like much less of a hassle because if someone wants to edit them, they'll update everywhere they're used instead of making people commit the same changes across both pages. So if you want to keep doing it for ones like Cooper's birthday please do, I think it will be easier in the long run --Pyramidhead (talk) 02:57, July 7, 2017 (UTC)
Alright, will do! Special Agent Dale Cooper (talk) 06:09, July 7, 2017 (UTC)
Just a tip, you can use the link you see when you create each new page to pre-fill it with Template:SpecificDay, makes it much easier to standardize how these behave and change it later if needed --Pyramidhead (talk) 01:38, July 14, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that a bit late, haha, thanks. Special Agent Dale Cooper (talk) 02:16, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

My Life My Tapes Edit

I know there's an issue with Caroline dying four vs. ten years before 1989. Skimming through the book, it looks as if the only sections that would need to be adjusted are Part 5 Chapter 2 (April 3, 1978) through Part 6 Chapter 1 (July 30, 1980), covering Windom becoming Cooper's boss through him moving to SF and joining Counterintelligence. The only contradictions are the two letters he sent his dad (1983, 1986) which don't explicitly reference the situation so it's a pretty clean transition. Basically, the time period in question becomes April 1984 to July 1986 so that Caroline dies four years before the show. Thoughts? --Pyramidhead (talk) 01:41, July 5, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say we should adjust it to April '84 to July '86. Makes the most sense to me. Special Agent Dale Cooper (talk) 01:46, July 5, 2017 (UTC)
I wonder if it would be easier to ignore Cooper's statement this time instead of tweaking the novel? This way we would have just one inconsistencyRingoRoadagain (talk) 17:15, July 6, 2017 (UTC)
Maybe - but I think the show and movie should overwrite everything else whenever there's a conflict. In this case there's a six-year gap from 1980 to 86 where nothing really happens with Cooper so it's not hugely inconsistent to just shift it forward. The continuity when it comes to specific dates has always been a mess with this show. As long as it's made clear what we're doing on the Timeline page I think we should be free to "correct" it as necessary. --Pyramidhead (talk) 02:59, July 7, 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. The show and film are the main content of the franchise, so I think they should always take precedence. This also helps avoid angry readers that would accuse us of "not agreeing with the writers of the show" if we let MLMT take precedence. Special Agent Dale Cooper (talk) 06:09, July 7, 2017 (UTC)
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